Churchbooks,

civil registers and adressbooks

from East Prussia and where they are today

This page in German


Here I have made a list where you find nowadays churchbooks, civil registers and adressbooks from the regions of Allenstein, Neidenburg, Ortelsburg, Sensburg and Tilsit in East Prussia. Which way you choose to get the information is in your hand!

Literature:
* Bestandsverzeichnis der Deutschen Zentralstelle für Genealogie Leipzig, 1991,
* Bestandsverzeichnis des Evangelischen Zentralarchivs Berlin, 1992 (correction 1999),
* Bestandsverzeichnis des Standesamtes I in Berlin, 1992,
* Informator for civil registry offices in Poland, 1998 (I have only a part of it) and
* Deutsche Personenstandsbücher und Personenstandseinträge von Deutschen in Polen. 1898-1945, Frankfurt, 2000
* Katholische Kirchenbücher in Ost- und Westpreußen von Marianne Stanke, 2000 (this data is not found here!)

The records of the civil registry offices are nearly all in Poland. Beneath a region in this list you´ll find a link to a German side, so here I give you some hints: In Poland records which are 100 years or older get to a state archive. You´ll find the adresses of the civil registry offices and the adresses of the archives. Behind the civil registry office follows the name of the archive, where they have to send the 100 years old records. If you want a record from an archive or a civil registry office you should write in polish, and give them exact (!) dates otherwise it will cost you lots of money or they send you the answer that they had found nothing ... The answer you get is always in polish. If you write to a civil registry office, tell them that you want a copy of the original entry (it keeps more information!). Now only three more words: Geburten = births, Heiraten = marriages, Tote = deaths.
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LDS is the Church of "The latter Day Saints" who help with genealogy in their "Family History Centers".

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BER stands for the evangelic archive in Berlin:
Evangelische Zentralarchiv in Berlin
Kirchenbuchstelle
Bethaniendamm 29
10997 Berlin

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LEIP stands for the main genealogy archive in Germany:
Sächsische Staatsarchiv Leipzig
Abt. Deutsche Zentralstelle für Genealogie
Schongauerstraße 1
04329 Leipzig

In any request you should determine exact data as name, place and date otherwise the research could be denied! The best way is a personel visit at the archive, but if you are from overseas, maybe you´ll find a helpful hand or a relative who may do this research.

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GeAGNO is a group who is collecting data of the regions Neidenburg and Ortelsburg. They built up a data-base with all genealogical information of this regions, so you may get a useful part of the datas from them. Have a look at their homepage!
Genealogischen Arbeitsgemeinschaft Neidenburg / Ortelsburg

If you have datas of your ancestors in these regions please tell the GeAGNO about it, because a lot of information was destroyed! Many sources are nowadays in Poland - to get them is quite expensive and needs a lot of time, so if the GeAGNO could help you, you could help them with a donation for their work.

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Similar listings for civil registry for the regions of Briesen, Graudenz and Strasburg in the Standesamt I in Berlin and in the archive of state in Thorn you will find here:
http://www.westpreussen.de/standesa.htm

and for the churchbooks of these regions here:
http://www.westpreussen.de/kirchenb1.htm

About Pommerian (especially the region Schlawe) you should visit this homepage:
http://www.schlawe.de/familienforschung/index.html

About the records of Danzig (West Prussia) somewhere in the future you should find here a list:
http://www.danzig.de/danzkb01.htm

To start with Pommeria this is a real good one:
http://www.hinterpommern.de/Wegweiser/

Unfortunately some of these pages are only in German.


The region of Allenstein

Civil registry for Allenstein

Allenstein
- BER Evangelic church: Baptism 1779-1944 / Baptism-register 1779-1920 / Marriages 1807-1944 / Marriages-register 1807-1926 / Deaths 1779-1799, 1807-1944 / Deaths-register 1779-1917 / Confirmationen 1788-1800 / Military churchbook Deaths 1914-1919, 1937-1944 / Killed soldiers of 1815 / Chronical 1779-1806 / List of the Superintendenten, Priests and Kacheten 1795-1930
Gelguhnen (since 1871 Neubartelsdorf)
- BER Evangelic church: Baptism 1856-1944 / Marriages 1856-1944 / Deaths 1856-1944
Wartenburg (some churchbooks of the jail exist)
- BER Evangelic church: Baptism 1791-1797, 1802-1944 / Baptism-register 1793-1943 / Marriages 1811-1944 / Marriages-register 1811-1943 / Deaths 1796-1944 / Deaths-register 1796-1943 / Abendsmahllisten 1883-1944
- ARCHIWUM w Olsztynie Catholic church: Baptism & Deaths 1836-1869

The region of Neidenburg and Soldau

Kirchspielverzeichnis Neidenburg and Soldau (Which villages belongs to which church? Look here!)
Civil registry for Neidenburg and Soldau

Bialutten
Borchersdorf
- LDS LEIP Evangelic church: Baptism 1712-1768 / Marriages & Deaths 1735-1810
- LEIP Chronical 1712-1810
- ARCHIWUM w Olsztynie Evangelic church: Deaths 1882-1898
Groß Gardienen
- LDS LEIP Evangelic church: Baptism, Marriages & Deaths 1814-1874
- BER Evangelic church: Baptism 1814-1830 / Marriages & Deaths 1814-1829
Groß Schläfken
- LDS LEIP Evangelic church: Baptism, Marriages & Deaths 1802-1831
Heinrichsdorf
- LDS LEIP Evangelic church: Baptism & Marriages 1709-1735
- ARCHIWUM w Olsztynie Evangelic church: Baptism 1709-1834 / Marriages 1709-1766 / Deaths 1735-1802, 1849-1880
Groß Koschlau
- ARCHIWUM w Mlawie: Evangelic church: Baptism 1764-1921 / Marriages 1767-1796 / Deaths 1806-1937
za lata Baptism 1764-1766, 1885-1921 tylko rejestr, za lata Deaths 1849-1937 tylko rejestr
Jedwabno (ab 1938 Gedwangen)
- LDS LEIP Evangelic church: Baptism 1721-1752, 1766-1795, 1812-1874 / Marriages 1722-1753, 1766-1874 / Deaths 1722-1753, 1795-1874
In the WWW you´ll find Baptism 1721-1752 and Marriages 1722-1753 ! (Thanks for this: Kornelia Mammen!)
Kandien (verbunden mit Neidenburg)
- LEIP Evangelic church: Deaths 1873-1874
- LDS Evangelic church: Baptism 1768-1799, 1926-1944 / Marriages 1883, 1910, 1912-1914, 1916-1944 / Deaths 1873-1874, 1941-1944
- BER Evangelic church: Baptism 1768-1799, 1927-1944 / Marriages 1883-1910, 1912-1944 / Deaths 1941-1944
Klein Koslau - Groß Schläfken (ab 1938 Kleinkosel)
- LDS LEIP Evangelic church: Baptism, Marriages & Deaths 1719-1749, 1765-1874 / Baptism- register 1749-1935 / Marriages- register & Deaths- register 1749-1913 / Confirmation 1719-1749 / Memoratorium of the church 1719-1749
- ARCHIWUM w Olsztynie Evangelic church: Baptism 1776-1785, 1818-1895, 1912-1941 / Marriages 1767-1788, 1830-1889 / Deaths 1767-1800
Lahna
Malga
Muschaken
- LDS LEIP Evangelic church: Baptism 1754-1796, 1807-1836, 1861-1875 / Baptism-register 1784-1937 / Marriages 1757-1875 / Deaths 1757-1839 / Communikation 1768-1817
Narzym
- LDS LEIP Evangelic church: Marriages 1830-1889
Neidenburg (City und Country teilweise getrennt)
- LDS LEIP Evangelic church: Baptism 1708-1790, city 1802-1874, country 1803-1827, 1861-1874 / Marriages 1704-1768, 1811-1874 / Deaths 1704-1758, 1766-1808
- BER Evangelic church: Baptism 1708-1715, 1720-1827, 1935-1944 / Baptism-register 1802-1899, 1901-1939 / Marriages 1705-1715,1720-1810,1915-1945 / Deaths 1704-1758, City 1766-1806, Country 1768-1808, 1915-1944 / Deaths-register 1800-1935 / Confirmation 1915-1944 / persons-register 1725-1727 / list of the priests
Neuhof
Saberau
- LDS LEIP Evangelic church: Baptism, Marriages & Deaths 1692-1875
Scharnau
- LDS LEIP Evangelic church: Baptism 1702-1761, 1764-1874 / Marriages 1687-1763, 1766-1874 / Deaths 1696-1710, 1736-1748, 1755-1761, 1766-1874
Skottau-Thalheim
- LDS LEIP GeAGNO Evangelic church: Baptism 1737-1875 / Marriages 1731-1737, 1818-1853 / Deaths 1731-1875
- BER Evangelic church: Baptism 1737-1817 / Marriages 1731, 1737-1817 / Deaths 1731-1817
Soldau
- LDS LEIP Evangelic church: Baptism 1717-1875 / Marriages 1750-1813, 1852-1877 / Deaths 1763-1852
- ARCHIWUM w Olsztynie Evangelic church: Baptism 1717-1751, 1801-1884 / Marriages 1750-1813, 1852-1877 / Deaths 1762-1914
- LDS LEIP Schloßkirche, reformierte Gemeinde: Baptism 1671-1836 / Marriages 1683-1838 / Deaths 1801-1883 / Confirmation 1701-1829
- ARCHIWUM w Olsztynie Catholic church: Baptism, Marriages & Deaths 1860-1874
Szuplienen
Thalheim
- LDS LEIP Evangelic church: Baptism 1813-1850 / Marriages 1813-1849 / Deaths 1813-1875
Thurau
- LDS LEIP Catholic church: Baptism 1691-1736, 1741-1875 / Marriages 1691-1736, 1741-1831, 1841-1875 / Deaths 1691-1736, 1741-1875
Usdau

The region of Ortelsburg

Kirchspielverzeichnis Ortelsburg (Which villages belongs to which church? Look here!)
Civil registry for Ortelsburg

Flammberg (Opalenietz, partly found with Willenberg)
Friedrichshof
- LDS LEIP Evangelic church: Baptism 1724-1743, 1834-1863 / Marriages 1724-1743 / Deaths 1724-1743, 1828-1838
- ARCHIWUM w Olsztynie Evangelic church: Baptism 1724-1833 / Marriages 1760-1814, 1842-1859 / Deaths 1765-1838, 1856-1879
- ARCHIWUM w Szczecinie Evangelic church: Deaths 1846-1856
Fürstenwalde
- LDS LEIP GeAGNO Evangelic church: Baptism 1821-1874 / Marriages 1821, 1823-1859 / Deaths 1816-1874
Gawrzialken (1901)
Gross Schiemanen (1909)
Gross Schoendamerau
Jablonken (zu Theerwisch)
Klein Jerutten
- LDS LEIP Evangelic church: Baptism 1754-1819, 1850-1875 / Marriages 1754-1770, 1805-1840, 1866-1874 / Deaths 1795-1840, 1854-1861, 1873-1875
All data is found as a DBASE-file from Klein Jerutten for a Download! (Thanks for this: Romania Demanowski, who had written a little book for Klein Jerutten!)
Kobulten
- BER Evangelic church: Deaths 1795-1817, 1825-1831
Lipowitz (1898)
Mensguth
Ortelsburg
- LDS LEIP GeAGNO Evangelic church: Baptism, Marriages, Deaths 1818, 1823-1874 / Baptism Country 1846-1873
- LDS Evangelic Military church: churchbook 1843-1931
Passenheim
- LDS LEIP Evangelic church: Baptism 1660-1671, 1741-1762 / Baptism-register 1741-1814 / Marriages 1660-1671, 1741-1762, 1794-1861 / Deaths 1660-1671, 1741-1744, 1747-1762
- GeAGNO Evangelic church: Baptism-register 1741-1814 / Marriages 1794-1861
- ARCHIWUM w Olsztynie Evangelic church: a few records from different churches: 1820-1832, 1844-1849, 1867-1869, 1871-1874, 1879-1903 / Confirmation 1826-1838, 1867 (with birthdates) / person-register 1810, 1821-1833, 1838-1846, 1849-1852, 1861-1870 (partly with age and names of familymembers)
Puppen (1898)
Rheinswein
Schwentainen (Altkirchen is also found in Klein Jerutten, 1908)
Theerwisch
- BER Evangelic church: Baptism 1841-1873
Willenberg
- LDS LEIP GeAGNO Evangelic church: Baptism 1820-1838, 1852-1859

The region of Sensburg

Kirchspielverzeichnis Sensburg (Which villages belongs to which church? Look here!)
Standesamtsunterlagen für den Kreis Sensburg

Alt-Ukta (seit 1846, vorher zu Aweyden)
Aweyden (1764 all books were burnt)
- LEIP Evangelic church: Baptism & Marriages 1764-1846 / Deaths 1764-1780
- LDS Evangelic church: Baptism 1764-1846 / Marriages & Deaths 1764-1780
Barranowen (seit 1902, vorher zu Nikolaiken, seit 1938 Hoverbeck)
- LDS Evangelic church: Baptism 1851-1889, 1901-1944 / Marriages & Deaths 1902-1944 / family book (Letter B) 1813-1850
- LEIP family book 1813-1850
- BER Evangelic church: Baptism 1902-1944 / Baptism-register 1902-1938 / Marriages 1902-1944 / Marriages-register 1902-1944 / Deaths 1902-1944 / Deaths-register 1902-1944 / Killed soldiers 1915-1919, 1939-1943
Bosemb (ab 1938 Bussen)
- LDS LEIP Evangelic church: Baptism, Marriages & Deaths 1735-1828
Eichmedien
- LDS LEIP Evangelic church: Baptism 1800-1823 / Marriages & Deaths 1788-1829
Nikolaiken (City und Country, teilweise getrennt, ab 1895 zwei Pfarreien)
- LDS Evangelic church: Baptism 1693-1944 / Baptism-register 1693-1711, 1766-1809 / Marriages 1757-1783, 1789-1816, 1828-1944 / Marriages-register 1757-1944 / Deaths 1765-1944 / Deaths-register 1765-1840 / Deaths 1776-1790 (Mogillanten)
- LDS Evangelic church: Country: Baptism-register 1810-1859, 1895-1939 / Marriages-register 1840-1875, 1900-1940
- LDS Evangelic church: City: Baptism-register 1810-1939 / Marriages-register 1900-1944
- LDS Evangelic church: family book: Baptism-register 1835-1889 / 1810-1850 (A-Z)
- LDS Evangelic church: Baptism 1851-1889 (sorted by villages A-Z)
- BER Evangelic church: Baptism 1693-1722, 1727-1944 / Baptism-register 1693-1939 / Marriages 1757-1784, 1789-1816, 1828-1944 / Marriages-register 1757-1818,1828-1939 (some parts missing) / Deaths 1765-1944 / Deaths-register 1765-1840, Country 1840-1875, 1900 / Killed soldiers 1915-1919, 1939-1943

- ARCHIWUM w Olsztynie Evangelic church:Baptism 1891-1908
Peitschendorf (since 1934, earlier with Aweyden)
Ribben
Rudczanny
Schimonken (since 1938 Schmidtsdorf)
- LDS Evangelic church: Baptism 1702-1944 / Marriages 1765-1944 / Deaths 1742-1752, 1755-1764, 1840-1897
- BER Evangelic church: Baptism 1702-1704, 1707-1710, 1712-1942 / Baptism-register 1702-1765,1768-1942 / Marriages 1765-1944 / Marriages-register 1765-1874 / Deaths 1742-1897 / Deaths-register 1800-1874 / civil marriages 1883-1892
Seehesten
- LDS LEIP Evangelic church: Baptism 1649-1828 / Marriages 1687-1705, 1731-1772 / Deaths 1667-1668, 1687-1705, 1731-1837
- ARCHIWUM w Olsztynie Evangelic church: Marriages 1814-1815 / Deaths 1821 / Confirmation 1775-1789, 1793-1840 / members of the church 1811-1812, 1818-1820, 1822, 1824, 1826, 1829
Sensburg
- LDS Evangelic church: Baptism 1659-1681, 1731-1944 / Marriages 1766-1944 / Deaths 1682-1690, 1692-1780, 1813-1944
- LEIP Evangelic church: Baptism 1659-1681, 1753-1779 / Marriages 1766-1780 / Deaths 1682-1690, 1692-1737, 1765-1780
- LDS Evangelic church: churchbook 1737-1837
- LDS Evangelic military church: churchbook 1843-1920
- LDS Catholic church: churchbook 1862-1902
- BER Evangelic church: Baptism 1659-1681, 1753-1944 / Baptism-register 1731-1931 / Marriages 1766-1944 / Marriages-register 1784-1874, 1911-1931 / Deaths 1682-1944 / Deaths-register 1840-1879, 1911-1931 / List of priests and Diakone 1550-1836 / Chronical
Sorquitten
- BER Evangelic church: family book
Warpuhnen

The region of Tilsit

Kirchspielverzeichnis Tilsit (Which villages belongs to which church? Look here!)

Churchbooks for Tilsit-Ragnit from Dietmar Zimmermann with a list from Walter Klink

Coadjuthen / Koadjuthen
- LDS LEIP (only Samogitten) Evangelic church: Baptism 1669-1697, 1723-1757, 1759-1868 / Marriages 1723-1757, 1793-1800, 1827-1898 / Deaths 1723-1885 / Confirmation 1793- 1797 / Marriages-register 1844-1898
Laugszargen
Nattkischken
Neu Argeningken
Piktupoenen / Piktupönen
Plaschken
- LEIP Evangelic church: Baptism 1709-1875 / Marriages 1709-1870 / Deaths 1709-1815, 1840-1875 / Baptism-register, Marriages-register & Deaths-register 1775-1815
- LDS Evangelic church: Baptism 1709-1818, 1857-1875, 1931-1944, (illegitime) 1774-1868 / Marriages 1709-1759, 1789-1870, 1935-1944 / Deaths 1709-1875, 1924-1944 / Baptism-register, Marriages-register & Deaths-register 1775-1815 / Confirmation 1911-1944
- BER Evangelic church: Baptism 1931-1944 / Marriages 1935-1944 / Deaths 1924-1944 / Confirmation 1911-1941
Pokraken
Rucken
Tilsit
- LEIP Altlutheraner church: Baptism, Marriages & Deaths 1848-1874
- LDS Altlutheraner church: churchbook 1848-1907
- LEIP Deutschordenskirche: Baptism 1643-1820, 1825, 1828, 1838 / Marriages 1697-1836, 1838 / Deaths 1765-1799, 1814-1820, 1825, 1828-1838
- BER LDS Deutschordenskirche Baptism 1642-1944 / Marriages 1697-1944 / Deaths 1700-1944 some parts missing
- LDS Militärgemeinde (ev.): churchbook 1732-1942
- LEIP Catholic church (Kreis Tilsit): Baptism 1693-1846, 1854-1860 / Marriages 1693-1847, 1854-1860 / Deaths 1707-1846, 1854-1860
- LDS Catholic church (Kreis Tilsit): churchbook 1692-1942
- LEIP Litauische Gemeinde: Baptism 1723-1806, 1819-1820, 1853-1874 / Marriages 1791-1822, 1853-1874 / Deaths 1760-1804, 1819-1820, 1853-1874
- LDS Litauische Gemeinde: churchbook 1706-1874
- LEIP Mennoniten: Baptism & Marriages 1769-1890 / Deaths 1769-1874 / news from the church 1863-1890
- LDS Mennoniten: churchbook 1769-1890
- LEIP Evangelisch-reformierte church: Baptism 1699-1832 / Marriages 1699-1874 / Deaths 1800-1874 / Baptism-register & Marriages-register 1679-1941 / Deaths-register 1860-1941 / Confirmation 1699-1800, 1833-1874 / Communikation 1699-1800
- LDS Evangelisch-reformierte Kirche: churchbook 1679-1941
- LDS Landwehr Regiment 01: churchbook 1819-1868
Willkischken


Adressbooks

Some of those are filmed by the LDS (look above). The other information I have got from the german book for genealogy "Taschenbuch für Familien-Geschichts-Forschung" from the authors Ribbe / Henning, 11. Auflage, 1995 Neustadt an der Aisch , made by Verlag Degener & Co. Unfortunately I haven´t found the places where these are.

I think two good places would be the following:
Martin-Opitz-Bibliothek
Berliner Platz 11
44623 Herne

Deutsche Zentralstelle für Genealogie (look above)


East Prussia 1901

Neidenburg (region) 1926
A reprint you can get from the Kreisgemeinschaft Neidenburg.

Ortelsburg (city, region) 1939

Sensburg (region) 1939

Tilsit
(city, surrounding, region) 1884, 1902, 1906, 1914, 1919, 1922, 1924/25 (36. Ausgabe), 1930, 1936 (40. Ausgabe), 1939 (41. Ausgabe)
LDS 1902, 1906, 1914, 1922, 1924/25

For old farmers the following books are interesting. In the brackets you will find the places of the library, where these adress-books are found. (I have none of these books, sorry!)

General-Adreßbuch der Groß-Grundbesitzer des Deutschen Reiches und der Österreich-Ungarn-Monarchie.
1. Abteilung: Deutsches Reich, Königreich Preußen, 3. Band: Ostpreußen, Berlin 1878 (Detmold, Düsseldorf)

Handbuch des Grundbesitzes im Deutschen Reich, 2. Auflage
1. Das Königreich Preußen, 3. Lieferung: Ostpreußen, Berlin 1884 (Wuppertal-Elberfeld)

Handbuch des Grundbesitzes im Deutschen Reich, 3. Auflage
1. Das Königreich Preußen, 3. Lieferung: Ostpreußen, Berlin 1895 (unbekannt)

Handbuch des Grundbesitzes im Deutschen Reich, 4. Auflage
1. Das Königreich Preußen, 3. Lieferung: Ostpreußen, Berlin 1903 (Herne, Stuttgart)

Handbuch des Grundbesitzes im Deutschen Reich, 5. Auflage
3. Band: Ostpreußen, Berlin 1907 (Berlin, Bonn, Ellingen)

Handbuch des Grundbesitzes im Deutschen Reich, 6. Auflage (unbekannt)
Parey´s Handbuch des Grundbesitzes im Deutschen Reich, 7. Auflage
Band: Ostpreußen, Berlin 1929, Nachtrag Berlin 1930 (Ellingen, München)

Niekammer´s Güter-Adressbücher
3. Band: Ostpreußisches Güter-Adressbuch, Stettin 1905 (Berlin)

Niekammer´s Güter-Adressbücher, 2. Ausgabe
3. Band: Ostpreußisches Güter-Adressbuch, Stettin 1909 (Bonn)

Niekammer´s Güter-Adressbücher, 2. Auflage
3. Band: Güter-Adressbuch für die Provinz Ostpreußen, Stettin 1912 (Berlin, Münster)

Niekammer´s Landwirtschaftliche Güter-Adressbücher, 3. Auflage
3. Band: Landwirtschaftliches Güter-Adressbuch für die Provinz Ostpreußen, Stettin 1920 (Berlin, Bonn, Hannover, Herne, Münster)

Niekammer´s Landwirtschaftliche Güter-Adressbücher, 4. Auflage
3. Band: Landwirtschaftliches Güter-Adressbuch für die Provinz Ostpreußen, Stettin 1922 (Berlin, Braunschweig, Lüneburg)

Niekammer´s Landwirtschaftliche Güter-Adressbücher, 5. Auflage
3. Band: Landwirtschaftliches Adreßbuch der Domänen, Rittergüter, Güter und Hofe in der Provinz Ostpreußen, Stettin 1932, Nachdruck Bonn 1953 (Berlin, Bonn, Hamburg, Harburg)


Prästationstabellen
(Grundbücher)

You´ll find many genealogical datas in the following Prästationstabellen, Privilegienabschriften and Grundleihenbücher. These contain the taxes and other offical payments and often a listing of the children of a owner of a small possesment. These are often handwritten and so not easy to read.


Neidenburg

Neidenburg ARCHIWUM w Olsztynie Prästationstabelle 1834 (Signature XIV/9-1)

Ortelsburg

Mensguth LDS Grundbuchindex und Privilegienabschriften 1774-1867 / Grundleihenbücher, 1775-1801
Ortelsburg LDS Grundbuchindex und Privilegienabschriften 1744-1867

Tilsit

Baubeln LDS Präsentationstabellen 1730-1743, 1748-1760, 1763-1766, 1772-1790, 1792-1804, 1808


Archivalien

Possibly the contents of the old archives are interesting, too! Here you get help what remains:

Rainer Täubrich: Archive in Ostpreußen (vor und nach dem Zweiten Weltkrieg), 1982.
http://www.bronimarkt.com.pl/ap_luban/strony/Pomoze/biblioteka2.htm

Now something interesting from the Deutschen Historischen Institut Warschau:
A register for Poland archives in the WWW! But it is a little slowly...
A shortened file for Neidenburg & Allenstein (as a DOC-file)


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